Goodbye, my LiveJournal friends, for-EVAR!

by Brian Enigma on November 15, 2009 1:41pm

in Administrative

Yes, this post’s title invokes and evokes rule 1 of the Blog­donts that [info]sub­sti­tute posted years ago:

1.  [Do not] announce your depar­ture or hia­tus to the world. “Good­bye my Inter­net Friends For­ever” is always a mis­take. If you want to leave or go on a break, just do so. When you announce it, peo­ple feel that you’re beg­ging for com­pli­ments. Also, if you don’t absolutely mean it, you look like a total idiot when you come back the next day and post that “What Poke­mon are you” quiz. And if you’re try­ing to avoid evil stalk­ers, you just gave them free infor­ma­tion; don’t ever do that!

The real­ity of things is that I have not looked at my Live­Jour­nal friends page since Octo­ber 5th.  This is not through con­scious deci­sion (“good­bye, my LJ friends for­ever!”), but mainly due to con­ve­nience, work­flow, and wan­ing inter­est.  That’s not to say that I am dis­in­ter­ested in what folks have to say over there — I just do not always think about it and when I do, it almost doesn’t seem worth the effort of log­ging in, nav­i­gat­ing around, and read­ing the large back­log of missed posts.  I am not giv­ing up on Live­Jour­nal; I just find that it is less and less rel­e­vant to my interests.

I started writ­ing about my life in this thing called “a blog,” short for “web log,” back in August of 2001 after being intro­duced to the con­cept by [info]burn­ingskyz.  It caught on like wild­fire in my social group.  We all joined Live­Jour­nal and wrote about all vari­ety of things.  As RSS became more mature, I started using my journal’s friend list as a way of read­ing other blogs.  Even­tu­ally, I got myself a proper RSS reader and migrated those feeds out of Live­Jour­nal — split­ting my read­ing time between reader and jour­nal.  These days, my online read­ing time is mainly split between Google Reader and Twit­ter, with a touch of Face­book on the side. After toy­ing with LiveJournal’s poorly thought out OpenID imple­men­ta­tion (flawed in that I could read pro­tected entries but not com­ment on them), my online writ­ing moved com­pletely to my site (syn­di­cated to LJ via [info]brianenigma_rss).  LJ read­ing and writ­ing sim­ply dropped by the wayside.

I have sub­scribed to a few people’s jour­nals with Google Reader, which is nice but not a com­plete replace­ment for read­ing Live­Jour­nal.  One of the fea­tures that is unique to LJ — and used by many of my friends — is the abil­ity to post things as friend-locked entries. Obvi­ously, these do not appear in the RSS feed, and so I never see them in Google Reader.  I know of no easy way around this.  A cou­ple of months ago, some­one posted a squir­rely lit­tle Perl script to JWZ’s jour­nal that gets an RSS feed of all of your friends (not the default group or other sub-groups, but every­thing).  The out­put of that script would then have to be a public-ish RSS feed for Google Reader to ingest, and that com­pletely sub­verts the con­cept of posts being friend-locked by mak­ing them pub­lic enough for Google to see.  Given the choice of turn­ing people’s friend-locked entries to pub­lic (in a hid­den feed some­where, but still tech­ni­cally pub­lic) and sim­ply not read­ing LJ via Reader, I am choos­ing the latter.

So that is my long-winded way of say­ing Live­Jour­nal has got­ten old and while I have not com­pletely given up on it yet, the real­ity is that is has been a month and a half since I looked at it.  Good­bye, my Live­Jour­nal friends for another month and a half.  See you in the new year.

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P.S. If some­one really does know how to get LJ friend groups, includ­ing pro­tected entries, into Google Reader, then you are an amaz­ing per­son and must share this infor­ma­tion post-haste!  Mainly, I am look­ing for a solu­tion with the fol­low­ing features:

  • Allows me to view pro­tected entries within Google Reader, prefer­ably with an indi­ca­tor that the post is pub­lic ver­sus protected
  • Doesn’t require me to divulge a pass­word in plain­text (for instance, within a URL para­me­ter that can be seen in proxy logs, in OPML exports, or handed over to a 3rd party server/service)
  • Under­stands Live­Jour­nal groups.  I have groups defined on LJ for Cal­i­for­nia, PDX, ARGs, and what­not.  As I dis­cover and add new peo­ple on LJ, I really do not want to have to man­u­ally add them to the right groups on both LJ and Google Reader.  I know myself and know I’ll for­get an update.  They will quickly get out of sync.

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1 conrad November 15, 2009 1:50pm at 1:50 pm

I can’t speak for any­one else, but if you stop read­ing my LJ via some method or other, you’re really not to hear what I have to say. Seems a shame to drop actual social con­nec­tions because you don’t like a website.

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2 Brian Enigma November 15, 2009 2:21pm at 2:21 pm

As I men­tioned above, not read­ing Live­Jour­nal was not so much a con­scious deci­sion, but one of con­ve­nience and the migra­tion of my atten­tion to other venues.  This post was mainly to bring that back­ground behav­ior to the fore­ground.  It is cer­tainly not per­sonal, and I don’t even see it as drop­ping social con­nec­tions.  Tak­ing you as an exam­ple, I still read every­thing you write on Twit­ter and Face­book as well as your Flickr stream and Deli­cious links, I just miss out on some of the friend-locked LJ posts.  My web his­tory shows that I just seem to have lost inter­ested in Live­Jour­nal as a whole.  Although I can make a few guesses, I can­not com­pletely explain why.  It is cer­tainly noth­ing against indi­vid­ual users.  As I live more of my online life in Twit­ter and Google Reader (and to some extent, the iPhone Face­book client), I find I have less time and inter­est in Live­Jour­nal (and Digg and Unfic­tion — both of which I have not vis­ited in longer than LJ, but this post wasn’t about either of those ser­vices).  I last hit Live­Jour­nal a month and a half ago.  Pre­vi­ous to that, my mean-time-between-access had been between 2 and 4 weeks.  That’s been the trend, whether I like it or not, and even despite my attempts to improve the fre­quency of my access a few months ago.

If I can safely get friend-protected posts into Google Reader, this whole post may just become a moot point.

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3 Ariock November 15, 2009 1:56pm at 1:56 pm

As a par­al­lel issue, what blog­ging ser­vices (if any) are you aware of that allow one to post pro­tected friends-locked entries that are read­able in Google Reader? I mean, I’ve got not par­tic­u­lar affec­tion for LJ; how­ever, I was never able to get it to import prop­erly to my webserver’s Word­press imple­men­ta­tion. And I don’t see how I could have friends-locked Word­press entries anyway.

Any­way. just some ran­dom musings.

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4 Brian Enigma November 15, 2009 2:39pm at 2:39 pm

I have only found two ser­vices that let you get friend-protected entries into Google Reader:

Feed­Proxy seems to promise an open-source solu­tion (i.e. run it on your own server so that you do not have to share your pass­word with a 3rd party).  I can­not actu­ally find the code, though.  Also, based on the blog, it seems very on-again, off-again, with ser­vice out­ages mea­sured in weeks as they get blocked by LJ and then re-added.

Feed­Proxy, as best as I can tell from the blog is not per­ma­nently down and sug­gests using Free­MyFeed.  They seem to be closed-source and you just have to trust that they’re not going to divulge your pass­word.  The quote “…the pass­word is encrypted in the URL using a rotat­ing algo­rithm. Only the lead devel­oper of the appli­ca­tion even has full access to the encryp­tion meth­ods…” doesn’t make me feel safe and secure.  Secu­rity through obscu­rity and “it’s so secure I can’t even break it myself” are big red flags all through­out Bruce Schneier’s writings.

With regard to import­ing LJ to Word­press, I recall that I was able to import every­thing suc­cess­fully back when I did it.  I remem­ber hav­ing to do an XML export at LJ, then import­ing those files into Word­Press.  I don’t know if it’s been stream­lined since then or if they removed friend-locked posts for some rea­son.  You’re cor­rect in WP not hav­ing much by way of friend-locked entries.  Tech­ni­cally, you can make posts password-protected or only vis­i­ble if the user is logged in to your Word­press instal­la­tion, but nei­ther of those meth­ods are ter­ri­bly prac­ti­cal.  I’ve pretty much come to the con­clu­sion that noth­ing on the inter­net is truly pri­vate, includ­ing friend-locked posts, and that the best way to keep some­thing pri­vate is not to post it.  If I keep pri­vate infor­ma­tion to con­ver­sa­tions with friends over beer then every­thing else can be posted publicly.

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5 Brian Enigma November 15, 2009 5:01pm at 5:01 pm

Oops, I re=read your com­ment and real­ized you were ask­ing about alter­na­tive blog­ging ser­vices, not ser­vices that proxy Live­Jour­nal.  So far, I haven’t found any that have the ease of Live­Jour­nal.  The peo­ple run­ning the LJ code­base (Dead­Jour­nal, etc.) have the same lim­i­ta­tions.  As I men­tioned above, you can pro­tect stuff in Word­Press, but it’s a pain to end-users to read and not very RSS-able.  You can do pro­tected stuff on Face­book (via “Notes” that have their pri­vacy tied to spe­cific friend groups), but I think that’s even worse than LJ on the RSS front.  Beyond that, I’ve seen noth­ing.  Most of the blogs I read that belong to indi­vid­u­als are Word­Press (either hosted at WordPress.com or with copy of WordPress.org’s soft­ware run­ning on their own site) or Blog­ger, and sim­ply don’t post pri­vate infor­ma­tion.  Live­Jour­nal appears to be one of the few (along with MySpace and Face­book) with friends-only blog posts — and none have an easy way of get­ting them out­side of the walled garden.

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6 jes5199 November 16, 2009 12:12am at 12:12 am

I’ve been using a ter­ri­fy­ing con­coc­tion of Free­MyFeed plus Yahoo Pipes to cre­ate a sep­a­rate, friends-only-posts feed for each of my LJ friends. I have a ruby script that gen­er­ates the OPML for this. It ignores Live­jour­nal groups, but it could prob­a­bly be tweaked to use them.
It’s here if you care: http://github.com/jes5199/free_my_livejounal_with_opml

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7 Brian Enigma November 16, 2009 10:34pm at 10:34 pm

I keep telling myself that one of these days I need to learn Git and/or Ruby.  Maybe this week­end is the time!

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8 Gregory McIntyre December 22, 2009 7:06pm at 7:06 pm

I’m try­ing this out. I’m pretty excited. It seems to be work­ing. I only had to change one line:

–Foa­fURI = “http://#{Username}.livejournal.com/data/foaf“
+Foa­fURI = “http://#{Username}.livejournal.com/data/foaf”.gsub(‘_’, ‘-’)

I’d like to make it 1 RSS feed for each per­son, includ­ing pub­lic and pro­tected entries (maybe with a lit­tle icon or tag to qual­ify each entry as pub­lic or pri­vate) and it would put a link to the num­ber of com­ments at the bot­tom of each entry too.

I’ll see if I can man­age it. :P git branch ahoy.

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