AnthraX101, Log 2 Session Start: Sat Oct 11 19:14:29 2003 [19:14] *** Now talking in #therabbithole [19:14] *** TheOxygen sets mode: +v AnthraX101 [19:14] Welcome, anthrax [19:14] Hi [19:14] You're pretty good at tracking people down, it seems [19:15] I like to try :) [19:15] Understandably, it's... your job. [19:15] And I know that you're wondering who we are [19:15] What we do [19:15] Of course [19:15] And what connection we have to all of this, if any [19:16] Yep [19:16] Well, unfortunately I can't tell you all of those answers, because honestly, I'm still discovering them myself [19:17] However, I can provide you with some limited insight, and you seem deserving of it [19:17] You've proven to be quite smart thus far, actually [19:18] Thanks [19:18] I'll let you ask three questions now, that I will answer to the best of my abilities, then I have a question for you. Sound fair? [19:19] Sounds good [19:19] Then by all means, ask your questions. [19:21] Are you the "PMs", running the game? [19:22] *** Retrieving #therabbithole info... [19:22] A very interesting question. At times, is life not but a game? And everyone players and creators at different moments? [19:23] Is this all a game? Perhaps, but then again, knowing if it was a game would ruin the immersion, would it not? [19:23] That's not an acceptable answer. [19:23] You know damn well what I am asking [19:24] Come now anthrax, I hold you with much respect thus far, please offer me the same, I'm getting to your question. [19:24] Very well, continue. [19:25] If this was a game, are we the people running it? Most certainly not, I can assure you of that. But are we merely "players" by your definition? Heh, well, I'd classify us as a bit more than that. [19:27] That's as much as I'm allowed to say regarding your first question. Please, ask another. [19:31] Hello? You still with us? [19:32] Yes [19:32] Why are you spoofing the ingame characters of caesar and texel? [19:35] I'm afraid I don't have much information on that. I haven't "spoofed" either of those names, and neither has anyone else who is here. The Caesar and Texel that visited earlier were absolutely the real deal. caesar is the same person who's been updating Paintover.net. And while we did yell at CLoak, it was more to acknowledge his efforts and success at finding new information. (something most people have been having trouble with [19:37] Of course, you are probably wondering about some sort of connection between texel and absolut. I can only say that they share bloodlines, draw what conclusions you will from that. [19:38] Now, you see, you obviously know more then that. [19:38] Why did you do the second instance? [19:39] Thats just a continuation of my second question, BTW [19:39] A genie wouldn't grant you 4 wishes now would he? However, I'll accept this "continuation" bit. [19:40] I am just calling bs on the fact that you don't have that much info. [19:40] What I know and what I am allowed to tell you are two completely different things. I explained that earlier. [19:40] Then this is useless [19:40] If I told you everything, then there wouldn't be much of a surprise for you down the road. [19:40] I said I'd answer your questions as best as I could, and I am doing so. [19:41] So no explanation for the second instance? [19:42] The second instance? Put it this way. We would rather not move forward in our efforts untill more of you are caught up to where we are. There are things that should be very apparent to you, that have been laid out clear as a crystal, but you seem to be passing them over. [19:43] The second instance can be summed up in that we are bored waiting for the rest of you. [19:46] When this all started, people seemed to be very good at figuring things out. And while your path will only get harder, there are some very easy steps that you have... jumped over thus far. [19:48] You have one more question, before I get to ask one of you. What happens after that remains to be seen. [19:49] Who is the op that is in with all of this? [19:52] I'm not sure I follow your question. All four of us that you see here are "in with all of this". [19:53] It is in relation to this comment "[19:02] we have our people in ops too" [19:53] You implied that one of the ops of #matrix was in on the whole issue. [19:54] I want to know the depth of his involvement, and who exactly he is [19:54] *I* have never made such implications. [19:54] Of course not, I just stated that it was HVD who made that comment. [19:55] And though I don't know for sure, I would seriously doubt that any of us are related to the "ops" in #matrix [19:56] Then could you ask HVD what that comment was refering to? [19:56] Oracle is a bot, from the best I can tell, and I've had no contact with either jamesi or p33r [19:57] HVD can be quite a prankster when he wants to be, I'd be willing to bet that he was just trying to make you a bit paranoid. [19:57] Verry well. [19:57] I have one thing to say before you ask me your question [19:57] However, we are watching you, but only from #matrix. Any other channels you may be in are not compromised, I promise you that. [19:58] Say your peace then. [19:58] If you try and pull that type of stunt again, I will see to it all members of #samatrix are banned from anything that I can. [19:58] You may ask your question. [19:59] I find it interesting that you are calling this a "stunt". If it was merely a stunt, I wouldn't be wasting my time talking to you right now. [20:01] There are beter ways to encourage our development as a channel. [20:01] I will not accept anyone faking in-game characters in my channel. [20:01] The progress you and your channel make is entirely dependant on your own actions, and not the actions of us. [20:01] Be they established, or not [20:02] I agree. But you have stated that you simply wished us to develop to your level. [20:02] There are clues out there that are so blatantly obvious, that if we made them any more obvious, we'd just be telling you what to do. [20:03] This is not up for debate. If you wish to enter as yourself or another nickname, and encourage us to look at something again feel free to. [20:04] However, you are not permited to appear as a game character. This is not up for debate [20:05] I suppose that you do have more authority in your channel. However, banning people doesn't seem to be a viable answer, especially based on your presumptions. [20:05] I am most disheartened to see your doubts in our operation, and the legitamacy of such. [20:06] From the information that we have collected from watching you, we had thought that you were more open-minded. [20:06] Then I guess we will have a difference of opinion. But I am afraid I must insist that you find another method of disemination then posing as a game character [20:08] Again, you assume that we are nothing more than imposters. I guess that .graffle pic wasn't enough. [20:09] Perhaps you are not as ready as we had suspected. Perhaps it will take some more time. However, rest assured, you will know the extent of our involvement when this is all over. [20:10] See, now it dishartens me that you would claim .graffle as your work. [20:10] And it is for this reason that I can not permit you to represent game characters in-channel [20:11] I'm not personally responsible for that picture, you'll have to take that up with caesar, should he choose to visit again. [20:11] You are more then welcome to point us towards anything that we missed, but we must be able to diffrentiate between in-game and out of game characters [20:13] It really takes all the fun out if you know who's on the inside and who's on the outside looking in. [20:13] I'm afriad that this matter is not up for debate. [20:15] This was not the situation I was hoping for, but alas, you remain entrenched in your opinion regarding us, and what we do. [20:16] Keep your eyes open, but more importantly, keep your mind open. [20:17] I was hoping this conversation would provide some sort of insight for you, but I now doubt that fact. [20:18] You may ask your question now. [20:19] Unfortunately, your answers and opinions have changed my plans. I do not have a question for you at this time, perhaps in the future. Untill then, we will keep watching you and the others, and you should keep watching for us, too. [20:20] Thank you for taking the time to have this discussion, either way. [20:20] Goodbye. [20:20] Good day Session Close: Sat Oct 11 20:20:12 2003